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PostSubject: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:22 pm

Hello,

I wonder if anyone knows if both sides of the BIG 611 - Ehrwalderalm are possible with a race bike? I see in one of the photos on the website that at least one side (unclear which) is possible with a race bike. Anyone knows about this? Cheers, Jerry (my first post)

PS: Also, I was looking to find the good description of the Zillertaler Höhenstrasse that once appeared in a BIG bulletin, but it is apparently not online (yet). (Will dig out the bulletin at home ... .)
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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:46 pm

In climbed the Zillertalr höhenstrasse; travelogue you can find here:
http://www.gyorgyigabor.hu/2006_Tirol_eng.php
(bottom; last day was that hard climb!)
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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:35 pm

Actually I was not interested in Ehrwalder Alm -- I confused it with Karawendelhaus/Hochalmsattel -- anyone knows anything about Karawendelhaus and road conditions? I have seen some mountainbikers account of it, and much of it looks doable with a race bike.

Thanks -- Györgi about your account of the Zillerstrasse road (I discovered not so long ago that Valico di Col Carette was a paved pass above 2000m after reading your account of it :-)). I plan another long trip in the Alps this Summer intending to finish climing all paved passlike roads in the whole of the Alps above 1700m and have about a dozen or so climbs that I must do, but still search for more possibly asphalted passroads that are not well known (or not well known as "pass roads"). Lately found out about Chamm in Switzerland for example -- a very nice asphalted pass road most often referred to as Palfris (1712m).

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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:12 am

I searched also a lot roads on maps or on web, usually above 2000m.
I collected a lot of climb-collection websites, look them:
http://www.gyorgyigabor.hu/link.php#emelkedok
a few interesting:
http://www.thimet.de/Motorrad/Liste.html#sortHeight
http://panneauxcols.free.fr/Docs%20Accueil/presentation.htm
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Alpenpässe
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Pässe_in_der_Schweiz
http://www.wissens-quiz.de/wissen/bildung/wikipedia/l/li/liste_der_italienischen_gebirgspa_sse.html
http://www.bikertour.de/alpenpaesse/
http://www.alpentourer.de/alpenpaesse/index.html
http://www.tornanti.it/html/home_page.asp
http://www.cyclingcols.com/
http://www.salitomania.it
http://www.schymik.de/passdb/ - maybe a lot of MTB, but ...
http://www.rennradschlag.de/skins/custom/passliste.php

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http://www.gs-enduro.de/ - that's also good collection !
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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:14 am

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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:14 pm

gyorgyigabor wrote:
http://www.quaeldich.de/Locations.pl?Aktion=Paesse
Do you know this ?

Yes, I know this and talk regularly with at least one contributor there. Thanks for the others links too -- ca. 3 of them I did not know about and will have a look! /Jerry
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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:03 pm

Yes, Quaeldich is the greatest movement in Germany, much based than us on time-trials for the climbs but with plenty of very good descriptions of the climbs and good pictures.

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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:11 pm

eyeless wrote:
Actually I was not interested in Ehrwalder Alm -- I confused it with Karawendelhaus/Hochalmsattel -- anyone knows anything about Karawendelhaus and road conditions? I have seen some mountainbikers account of it, and much of it looks doable with a race bike.

/Jerry

Actually I am interested in both -- thinking of starting in Hinterriss and going over the Hochalmsattel to Scharnitz and then over Ehrwalder Alm .... to Ehrwald. Seems like mostly ok gravel roads, but maybe parts are more jeep like? /Jerry
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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:10 pm

So, Zone 08 have got too much gravel road (minimum 500 meters lenght).
10/75

617 - Halltal - 1 km medium gravel.
627 - Volkzeiner Hütte - I hadn't more information.
640 - Hochwurzen - 6km light gravel. I was on roadbike.
645 - Poludniger Alm - 2x500 m light gravel. I was on roadbike.
651 - Oberst-Klinke Hütte - I hadn't more information.
654 - Gleinalmsattel - I hadn't more information.
655 - Lammersdorfer Berg - The last 1,5 kilometer is a medium gravel. I walked my bike becouse it was a rainy day.
666 - Bürgeralm - 7km medium gravel. I was on MTB.
671 - Sonnwendstein - 6,5 km medium gravel. I was on MTB.
672 - Stuhleck - From Pfaffensatel (4 km) is a light gravel road. I was on MTB.

Maybe I gave a new informations! cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: 611 - Ehrwalderalm   Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:16 pm

I'm sorry! I'm forgot. The plus one is the Ehrwalder Alm.
11/75

This BIG has got another road. This road is from Klamm. This is a little village not too far Seefeld.
So the road is asphalt(!) but not to Ehrwalder Alm. It's a very nice and touristic road, maybe 10-12 km lenght. The last two kilometers is a light gravel. After the highest point the road has got a short downhill.
I was on MTB and my way from Ehrwald to Klamm (in 1995).
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